The Above Board Podcast

In this episode, John Kennedy and Brandon Hatcher look back at the financial lessons that often don’t get taught in school. From budgeting and saving to investing, spending, and building good money habits, they share practical advice for teaching the next generation how to feel more confident and intentional with money.

 

• 01:54 Back To School
• 03:20 Financial Literacy First
• 05:07 Breaking The Excuse Loop
• 08:20 Experiential Learning Ideas
• 16:06 Life Skills in School
• 17:11 Psychology And Identity
• 20:20 Finances As Core Curriculum
• 21:06 Budgeting in School
• 30:55 Time and Fitness Investing
• 34:40 Free Financial Course Shoutout

John Kennedy challenges the common mindset of saying “I’m just not good with money,” arguing that in today’s world of budgeting apps and free education, financial apathy is too costly. He explains that unlike 50 years ago, when pensions and stronger Social Security made average money habits less damaging, today retirees often rely on Social Security for only about one-third of expenses, home prices are far higher relative to income, and retirement depends largely on personal saving and investing. Using time-value-of-money examples, he shows how small decisions and delayed action can dramatically reduce long-term outcomes. He emphasizes that wealth is usually built through consistent, boring habits and urges you to take one small step today and share it in the comments.

• 00:00 Why We Say "Bad With Money"
• 01:02 Retirement Reality Check
• 01:33 Housing Costs And Stakes
• 02:14 Savings Rate Wake Up
• 03:11 Financial Apathy Is Normalized
• 04:09 Delayed Consequences And Drift
• 04:44 Compounding And Starting Early
• 05:32 Wealth Is Boring Habits
• 07:27 Plant Seeds For Momentum
• 08:10 Your One Step Challenge

Everybody wants the result, but few people stick with the discipline it takes to get there.

In this episode, John Kennedy explores the compound effect of discipline, why consistency matters more than motivation, and how small actions repeated over time can create remarkable results. From finances and health to relationships and personal growth, this conversation is a reminder that lasting progress is built one intentional step at a time.

If you've been waiting for the perfect moment to start, this episode is your encouragement to begin where you are and keep showing up!

• 00:00 Everybody Wants Results
• 00:27 Motivation vs Discipline
• 00:54 Earned Dopamine Momentum
• 01:36 Tim Grover Relentless
• 02:07 Quiet Discipline Pays
• 02:29 Money Example First 100K
• 03:27 Momentum Next 100K
• 04:16 Grand Slam Trap
• 05:34 Discipline Creates Peace
• 06:14 Identity Shift Habits
• 06:46 Show Up Regardless
• 07:33 Encouragement To Start

In this episode, John sits down with Lisa Begley, author of The Sock Drawer Philosophy and host of the Sock Drawer Podcast, to talk about navigating life’s messy middle.

Lisa shares how major life transitions, career changes, and a few hard lessons helped shape her perspective on growth, resilience, and moving forward even when things feel unclear. She explains the “sock drawer” metaphor for life’s chaos and walks through her D-R-A-W-E-R™ Method for making progress without needing everything to be perfect first.

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• 00:00 Meet Lisa Begley
• 01:32 Real Life Messy Middle
• 02:51 Retirement Reinvention
• 05:41 Authenticity Over Perfection
• 07:14 Sock Drawer Philosophy
• 09:27 Signs and Sock Stories
• 12:53 Trauma and Feeling Stuck
• 15:31 Decide to Move Forward
• 19:56 Tiny Dare Accountability
• 21:07 Money Mindset Parallels
• 24:56 Introducing the D-R-A-W-E-R Method
• 29:43 Apply What You Know
• 41:49 Why Mentors Matter
• 45:39 Book Giveaway

John Kennedy explains the “Arrival Fallacy;" the belief that happiness will come once you reach a milestone like a certain net worth, retirement, or business success, only to find the feeling quickly fades. He breaks down hedonic adaptation (happiness returning to a baseline) and how dopamine is more tied to anticipation and pursuit than achievement, which is why many high achievers and retirees can feel lost after “arriving.” John argues that lasting fulfillment comes from valuing the process, consistent progress, and meaningful pursuits rather than a single outcome.

• 00:33 What Is Arrival Fallacy?
• 01:35 Hedonic Adaptation Explained
• 02:21 Dopamine and Pursuit
• 03:20 Success After the Summit
• 03:56 Retirement and Identity Shift
• 04:35 Value the Process
• 04:58 Softball Story Lesson
• 06:53 Redefining Success
• 07:33 Keep Your Brain Moving

On this episode of The Above Board podcast, John welcomes back Brandon Hatcher to discuss how to be “retire ready” beyond just finances, building on Brandon’s recent retire-ready checklist event and their earlier “Power of Positive Aging” episode. They explore how retirement can trigger boredom or an identity crisis, why today’s longer, healthier retirements require purpose, routine, and continued growth, and how to use the “what it’s not” exercise to define an ideal retirement (e.g., not endless TV, not doom-scrolling, not wasting time).

They highlight the importance of community, family and grandkids, health, and aligning expectations with a spouse, including trying a sabbatical or “soft retirement” before fully stopping work. They also briefly cover key financial basics: defining desired lifestyle and cash flow, building income sources, using tax-diversified accounts (taxable, IRA, Roth), and keeping taxes low.

 

"Your Retire Ready Checklist" Webinar: https://youtu.be/aW8zxVFUpM4

• 02:08 Beyond Money Retirement
• 03:13 Identity Crisis After Work
• 07:43 'What It's Not' Game
• 10:04 Build a Daily Routine
• 15:16 Try a Retirement Sabbatical
• 16:26 Family and Grandkids Rhythm
• 19:30 Community Without Isolation
• 21:57 Money Enables Meaning
• 22:45 Financial Therapy Talks
• 27:39 Mindfulness Shelf Method
• 30:20 Learning And Growth Plans
• 34:07 Funding Your Retirement
• 39:06 Health And Partner Alignment
• 40:43 Try It Before Retiring
• 41:25 Closing Quote

We live in a world that pushes shortcuts: quick wins, fast answers, and surface-level thinking. In this episode, John and Rich talk about why that mindset shows up in your finances and lifestyle, how it leads to frustration, and why real progress comes from slowing down and building awareness first. If you’ve ever felt stuck or tempted to skip the basics, this conversation will help you reset and refocus.

• 01:45 Shorts vs Attention Spans
• 05:27 Brain Rot and Dopamine
• 06:17 News Extremes Example
• 11:12 AI Future and Jobs
• 14:52 Human Skills Still Matter
• 17:39 Life Hacks and Shortcuts
• 20:46 Motivation Content Trap
• 24:58 Viral Speed of Trends
• 26:37 Loneliness and Disconnection
• 29:48 Online Connection Paradox
• 32:23 Social Media Engagement Spiral
• 36:45 Shortcuts Versus Scenic Route
• 39:33 Hard Work and Saving Hurts
• 44:57 Dopamine and Steroid Shortcuts
• 46:53 Do More Than Watch!

In this episode, we sit down with Jess Jensen, founder of Co-Pilot Communications, to talk about building authentic leadership in a digital world. After nearly 20 years inside Fortune 100 companies like Microsoft and Qualcomm, Jess now helps executives and founders find their voice, clarify their message, and show up online in a way that actually reflects who they are. We unpack why differences sell, how vulnerability builds credibility (not weakens it), the real role of AI in content creation, and why LinkedIn and podcasting are powerful tools for modern leaders.

 

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• 00:00 Guest Intro
• 01:32 Unreasonable Hospitality
• 04:03 Radical Candor and Trust
• 05:14 Digital Presence Funnel
• 11:03 AI and Authentic Content
• 20:21 Client Process and Storytelling
• 25:03 Setting Story Boundaries
• 25:45 Vulnerability Builds Credibility
• 31:23 Authenticity Shapes Team Culture
• 34:46 Dark Social Flywheel
• 37:36 Podcasting and LinkedIn Strategy

Most financial mistakes aren’t math problems… they’re mindset problems. In this episode, John unpacks why knowledge alone isn’t what holds most people back. It’s not that you don’t understand budgeting, investing, or saving. It’s the emotions, habits, fears, and stories underneath your decisions that quietly drive the outcome. We talk about behavior vs. strategy, why self-awareness matters more than spreadsheets, and how to start making financial decisions that align with who you want to become, not just what the numbers say.

• 00:00 “Just Make $273/Day” Money Math Misses the Point
• 01:13 Hard Work Isn’t the Problem: The Real Causes of Money Stress
• 02:35 The 3 Gaps: Discipline, Awareness, and Identity
• 04:00 Gap #1 — The Discipline Gap (Knowing vs. Doing) 04:37
• Gap #2 — The Awareness Gap (Measure Your Burn Rate & Savings Rate)
• 06:34 Gap #3 — The Identity Gap (Your Money Story Shapes Your Behavior)
• 07:58 Practical 4-Step Reset: Track, Automate, Cancel, Money Date
• 10:28 Share This + Get Help at YourMoneyStory.app

John sits down with Pia to explore the connection between creativity, conviction, and living with purpose. They talk about what it means to create from a place of clarity, how culture shapes expression, and the courage it takes to live authentically. It’s a thoughtful conversation about identity, purpose, and using your creativity in a way that reflects who you truly are.

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Welcome to the Creative Club: Make Life Your Biggest Art Project

• 01:20 Redefining Creativity
• 03:53 Pia's Personal Journey and Career Shift
• 06:03 The Impact of Creativity in Life and Work
• 07:46 Rediscovering Intuition and Overcoming Fear
• 14:49 Balancing Productivity and Presence
• 27:30 Embracing Peace and Self-Service
• 33:35 Unleashing Creativity: John's Journey
• 34:21 The Importance of Self-Integrity
• 39:04 The Power of Slowing Down
• 40:29 Creating Space for Creativity
• 42:50 Finding Flow State
• 58:32 'Welcome to The Creative Club'